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July 14, 2026

Trailer: 2026 Season - Money

A new weekly season launches on Tuesday July 28 exploring two themes for people who care & live somewhere: Food & Money. Now that I have my own Advice-Only Firm I am free to tell you what I see as a Certified Financial Planner helping people get right what it should be easy to get right (only it ain't). I dream of fixing our system so my profession goes from essential to optional - starting with these reality checks, context mapping and solution-casting queries.
Trailer: 2026 Season - Money
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Trailer: 2026 Season - Money
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July 7, 2026

Trailer: 2026 season - Food!

July 28 a new weekly season starts exploring two themes: Food & Money. What does Food have to do with being a Good Ancestor? So much!
Trailer: 2026 season - Food!
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Trailer: 2026 season - Food!
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Sept. 23, 2025

Sept 22 2025 - CILU radio show

Every Monday at 6 pm I broadcast a news show on CILU in Thunder Bay 102.7 FM. Truth be told, I record it on Sunday and send it to the staff to upload into the broadcast system. But this Monday they uploaded the wrong show - so no-one will hear this unless you choose to hear the news from here according to me! So here it is (I'd be so glad if even one person can hear it!)
Sept 22 2025 - CILU radio show
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Sept 22 2025 - CILU radio show
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Sept. 23, 2025

4.3 Sufficiency with Lloyd Alter

Keynote speaker at the third annual https://northwestclimategathering.ca/, author, activist and architect.
4.3 Sufficiency with Lloyd Alter
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4.3 Sufficiency with Lloyd Alter
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May 20, 2025

Sparking Community Gardens with Scott Pound

The John St. Extension Community Park and Gardens started guerrilla twenty years ago, one of the successful neighbourhood initiatives that informed Thunder Bay getting pro-active in supporting community gardening. This Spring Scott Pound is leading an initiative to add a community garden to the space, and grow food to be served at the Abbey's free meal program. Building community through gardening, creating welcoming spaces and daring to engage through kind conversations with strangers and neigh...
Sparking Community Gardens with Scott Pound
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Sparking Community Gardens with Scott Pound
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May 19, 2025

Victoria Day 2025 Rooting for Post-Colonial Changes

This was pre-recorded to be broadcast on CILU Radio Victoria Day, Monday May 19 at 6 pm here in Thunder Bay. But I messed up, didn't get the tape in on time to be cued, and they replayed last week episode instead. I hate for no-one to ever hear this! So here you go - all news referenced is detailed in the related blog post at SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca - Enjoy!
Victoria Day 2025 Rooting for Post-Colonial Changes
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Victoria Day 2025 Rooting for Post-Colonial Changes
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April 27, 2025

Greening Provincial Policy - a conversation with Mike Schreiner, MPP Green Party Ontario

A conversation with Provincial Green Party Leader Mike Schreiner held on April 23 touches on care and community, expensive current provincial legislature discouraging renewable energy production, the need & opportunity to build local food systems - and more. Held at Rose N Crantz Coffeeshop in Thunder Bay This picture of Mr. Schreiner was taken at the Earth Day Party thrown by Thunder Bay's Northwest Climate Gathering the night before at the turn-an-old-shirt-into-a-tote-bag table with vol...
Greening Provincial Policy - a conversation with Mike Schreiner, MPP Green Party Ontario
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Greening Provincial Policy - a conversation with Mike Schreiner, MPP Green Party Ontario
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April 22, 2025

17% wins Climate Action Here

Why I'm in love with 17% - that's all it takes to tip Impactful Climate Action in our community from outlier to mainstream. And why I hope to see Native Plant Gardening get trendy here this growing season. With a new song - and lots of nerdy facts to back me up.
17% wins Climate Action Here
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17% wins Climate Action Here
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Dec. 19, 2023

5.10 The Money is Knocking, open the door with Richard Wong

The Season Finale features development lawyer Richard Wong with his thoughts after talking about engaging successfully with Corporations, and financing the big changes you want to see - at the Northwest Climate Gathering in Thunder Bay last month. Th...
Guest: Richard Wong
5.10 The Money is Knocking, open the door with Richard Wong
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5.10 The Money is Knocking, open the door with Richard Wong
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Dec. 12, 2023

5.9 Biking Viking Ken Shields Travels Green

Ken is the worker bee behind Just Bike TBay, the Memorial Link and Thunder Bay’s E.V. shows. And he was right at the heart of the Northwest Climate Gathering. We talk about the power of positivity and persistence, we celebrate being nerds and buildin...
Guest: Ken Shields
5.9 Biking Viking Ken Shields Travels Green
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5.9 Biking Viking Ken Shields Travels Green
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Dec. 5, 2023

5.8 Northwest Climate Gathering tour by song

A season wrap before the season’s done - and a teaser for the episodes to come. With many songs, and an insider’s tour of the Northwest Climate Gathering 2023: Hope & Action. Good company as COP28 unfolds. Referencing: https://www.katharinehayh...
5.8 Northwest Climate Gathering tour by song
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5.8 Northwest Climate Gathering tour by song
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Nov. 28, 2023

5.7 reprise Food Futures with Brendan Grant, organic farmer

A rebroadcast of an episode first shared May 17, 2022. What it would take to achieve food security in Thunder Bay, and what blows Brendan’s mind in every teaspoon of soil. Brendan Grant is leading discussion of this topic at https://www.nwclimategath...
5.7 reprise Food Futures with Brendan Grant, organic farmer
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5.7 reprise Food Futures with Brendan Grant, organic farmer
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Nov. 21, 2023

4.6 Lucie Lavoie’s peace & plenty

Talking gardening, city wilderness, the satisfaction of a well-stocked garage & peace with Lucie Lavoie. Lucie is a founding member of both Superior Seed Producers and EcoSuperior, where she was a program coordinator for over twenty years. She an...
Guest: Lucie Lavoie
4.6 Lucie Lavoie’s peace & plenty
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4.6 Lucie Lavoie’s peace & plenty
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Nov. 14, 2023

4.5 Keira Essex Relates

Keira Essex is is an environmental studies student at Lakehead University, an activist, and a novice photographer of mixed settler-Anishinaabe heritage. She is one of the people pulling together the Northwest Climate Gathering this month. Original mu...
Guest: Keira Essex
4.5 Keira Essex Relates
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4.5 Keira Essex Relates
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Nov. 7, 2023

4.4 Kevin Brooks Sparks Community Action

Kevin Brooks teaches and researches Social Justice as a Program Advisor at Lakehead University. He is one of the people shaping and leading the Northwest Climate Gathering November 25 & 26. Our conversation circled back to housing more than once,...
4.4 Kevin Brooks Sparks Community Action
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4.4 Kevin Brooks Sparks Community Action
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Nov. 6, 2023

4.1 Shy-Anne Hovorka Connects

A visit and new song with award-winning singer-songwriter and humanitarian Shy-Anne Hovorka, from her home near Nipigon. A fitting kick-off to season four. Lyrics, links and more at www.SomethingDifferentThisWayComes.ca
4.1 Shy-Anne Hovorka Connects
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4.1 Shy-Anne Hovorka Connects
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Oct. 31, 2023

4.3 Dave Spies Protects Our Winter

Dave Spies is the Thunder Bay Chapter Lead of Protect Our Winters Canada and  a third year law student at Lakehead University’s Bora Laskin Faculty of Law. His research focus is on the intersection of environmental law, Indigenous rights, public land...
4.3 Dave Spies Protects Our Winter
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4.3 Dave Spies Protects Our Winter
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Oct. 24, 2023

4.2 Hope & Action Gathered In

From gathering a harvest, to gathering momentum and attention. Considering how fear hunts us, and hope needs to be reached for. Proposing the power of community.  Hoping for utopia and savouring joy.
4.2 Hope & Action Gathered In
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4.2 Hope & Action Gathered In
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Aug. 5, 2023

Songs for Courage & Clarity - seasons 2&3, music only

Songs composed and recorded for this podcast by Heather McLeod - plus one co-composed and co-performed with Shy-Anne Hovorka.
Songs for Courage & Clarity - seasons 2&3, music only
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Songs for Courage & Clarity - seasons 2&3, music only
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July 6, 2023

3a Gathering: Framework & curing anxiety

Two dozen gather to toast the podcast so far and seed the coming seasons envisioning what change they most want to see happen. With a detour to explore humbleness and hard conversations, cows as a cure, smoke as a trigger, and the power of frames. By...
3a Gathering: Framework & curing anxiety
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3a Gathering: Framework & curing anxiety
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May 23, 2023

3.8 Songs of the Kindness Economy

Summarizing Season three's seven episodes imagining the Kindness Economy with the songs each episode inspired, and a bit about how the rant or conversation fed the composition. By Heather McLeod in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. Season Four planned fo...
3.8 Songs of the Kindness Economy
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3.8 Songs of the Kindness Economy
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May 16, 2023

3.7 Breath with Curniss McGoldrick

City as home, where you can breath, slow down, connect, relax. The importance of difficult conversations. Many hands make for light work. Budget to support your priorities. Choices must be made. Set boundaries,  speak up. Lyrics and more at www.Somet...
3.7 Breath with Curniss McGoldrick
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3.7 Breath with Curniss McGoldrick
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May 9, 2023

3.6 Judi Vinni Digs In

Conversation with Judi Vinni of https://willowspringscreativecentre.ca/ Care of our Elders; mixed ages & hands-on learning; therapeutic gardening; needs-inclusive employment; trust and relationships; Lappe Nordic Ski Centre collaborating with social ...
3.6 Judi Vinni Digs In
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3.6 Judi Vinni Digs In
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May 4, 2023

3.5 Kindness. Economy. Good & Messy

Considering the psychology of change - honour vs. dignity cultures, the kindness paradox; how to unlock capital, human and $: universal basic income, justice systems, no skin in the game loans & truly supporting micro-businesses, multigenerational pl...
3.5 Kindness. Economy. Good & Messy
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3.5 Kindness. Economy. Good & Messy